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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: Nursing Toddler Reply with quote

My daughter is 27 months old and is still nursing. I love that she still nurses especially since I am a WOHM. I feel it is a wonderful way to reconnect after being apart for the day. We also co-sleep and she nurses a night. Honestly, I am not sure how often she nurses at night. Typically, she nurses to sleep around 8:30 in her bed next to ours. Somewhere between 11 and 1 am, she moves over to our bed and sleeps with us the rest of the night.

The issue is in the morning. I try to get up early to shower/get ready before DH and DD wake. Lately, she has been waking up when i get up and pitching a fit when I won't lay back down and nurse her. She may have nursed an hour before and it doesn't matter. She will scream and cry; she won't let Daddy comfort her. She will follow me into the bathroom and cry while I shower. Sometimes, she will forget about it once I am in the shower but not normally. This morning, the idea was stuck in her head. I was able to talk to her and say we will only nurse while Daddy is in the shower and then we have to get ready to go to school. It actually worked. Most mornings nothing works....and I give in and let her nurse as long as she wants. She is very strong willed like her Mommy and Daddy. lol3

I enjoy nursing her in the mornings but don't enjoy the screaming and crying that can come with it. It frustrates DH so much! She won't let him comfort her and he feels helpless. He thinks if we stopped nursing, everything we would be better but I want to do child led weaning.

Some of this is a vent because I feel I can't win regarding DH or DD. But also wondering if anyone has advice on how to stopped the screaming in the morning and the side comments from DH. I just want a peaceful start to the day more often than not.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you set your alarm 20 minutes earlier (painful!) and pretend to get up and let her nurse then?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a good idea. Unknowingly, I have done this. I will wake before the alarm and she is already nursing and I think she is finished and as soon I get up; she wants to nurse more. She doesn't realize she has just nursed while sleeping and wants more.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ds used to do this too and it was hard getting dd out the door to school, so we set the alarm earlier and it made getting ready easier, but I was more tired.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try it. Going to bed earlier too will help! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been there although I didnt have to get ready for work. I thought the day would never come where M didnt nurse first thing in the morning. It was incredibly difficult if we did need to get out of the house quickly or if I wanted to sleep in ever. Slowly he just dropped that morning nursing time. In the meantime it was hard and there was nothing DH could do to help either.
If she does understand things well I would keep telling her that we can nurse when daddy is in the shower or set your alarm clock earlier.
I hope it gets easier soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We used to get up about an hour before we *had* to and nursed. My daughter nursed until she was 36 months, and around 24 months (we had already migrated her to her own bed/room) she stopped coming in to nurse in the morning.

She still nursed to sleep/nap, but not in the morning. We substituted with a bit of warm sweetened milk.

I hope the nursing relationship get's smoother.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geekigrl wrote:
We used to get up about an hour before we *had* to and nursed. My daughter nursed until she was 36 months, and around 24 months (we had already migrated her to her own bed/room) she stopped coming in to nurse in the morning.
She still nursed to sleep/nap, but not in the morning. We substituted with a bit of warm sweetened milk.

I hope the nursing relationship get's smoother.

I forgot to mention that. As soon as we transitioned M into his own room, he stopped nursing first thing in the morning.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have been thinking about transitioning her to her own room. DH would like it to happen sooner than later....maybe now is a good time to try. I would like to wait....don't want to loose the snuggle time with her.

What age were your little ones when you moved them to their own rooms?

Thanks for the thoughts and the reassurance that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dd moved to her own room by her choice at 2.5. We moved ds to his own room at just over 2, but it wasn't his choice. I had a spinal fusion and we couldn't risk him kicking my back. We struggled and struggled with him not sleeping and just a few months ago, we moved him back to our room with his bed sidecarred to ours and he's almost 4. He's starting to sleep most nights now and I think he just needed to gain the self confidence and have the security of knowing where we are.

In my experience (and it's limited, obviously), the easiest way to move them out is to make sure they are ready. If you make a big deal about her room and she's already sleeping well, you might have her do what our dd did and she'll move out and never come back. It could backfire though and she could become more and more attached to sleeping with you.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TriciaC wrote:
We have been thinking about transitioning her to her own room. DH would like it to happen sooner than later....maybe now is a good time to try. I would like to wait....don't want to loose the snuggle time with her.

What age were your little ones when you moved them to their own rooms?
Thanks for the thoughts and the reassurance that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.


M was 2 weeks shy of turning 2. We tried before that, but he would just scream and we would not do cry it out. When we tried at 2 years of age he was just ready. Honestly, he went from nursing 5 times a night to sleeping through the night in a matter of 3 days. He whined the first night for about 5 minutes and woke one other time. Same thing the next night and the 3rd night I think we whined for a couple minutes before falling asleep. I would never ever let my child cry or scream to sleep. If we had tried to transition him and he protested a lot, I would have never proceeded with it.
One huge thing we also changed is that we make his bedtime earlier. Before transitioning him into his own room we started him going to bed by 7:30pm. Then 7pm. I honestly believe it was the earlier bedtime that help him a lot. Before I knew it he was going to bed at 6pm on his own. I would tell him it was bedtime and he wouldnt even protest at all. He was so exhausted he had to go to sleep.

I should also add we co-sleep all the time now though. That started back up a couple months ago and he is 3.5. I dont remember the last time he slept in his own bed. hide Maybe last week sometime. He has been sick all of this week and then we just see how he is each day and whether or not he sleeps with us or in his own room. He just does both now, but I try to get him to sleep in his own room if he is feeling well. I just dont push it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could your dh try getting her up and taking her off for breakfast while you're still *pretending* to be sleeping? When I weaned dd in the morning I had dh get her up and feed her and she wouldn't think of it. She was in her own room though so it was different. she only nursed twice a day as well so she was already on her own way to weaning.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erin wrote:
geekigrl wrote:
We used to get up about an hour before we *had* to and nursed. My daughter nursed until she was 36 months, and around 24 months (we had already migrated her to her own bed/room) she stopped coming in to nurse in the morning.
She still nursed to sleep/nap, but not in the morning. We substituted with a bit of warm sweetened milk.

I hope the nursing relationship get's smoother.

I forgot to mention that. As soon as we transitioned M into his own room, he stopped nursing first thing in the morning.


When we told the pediatrician that when I moved her into her own room she stopped waking to nurse (morning and middle of the night) the ped said "well if you slept by the fridge wouldnt you snack all night too?"

Good analogy.

We nursed the last year....18 months? (it was kind of a blur) just at nap and bedtime...and owies. I worked full time as well.

We transitioned Jules to her own room *very* gradually. So essentially if we woke up and she was in our room, whoever was awake would move her to her bed (while she stayed asleep).
If she woke up to nurse, she came in and nursed, then went back into her room when she was done (or if we had fallen asleep when we woke up).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could your dh try getting her up and taking her off for breakfast while you're still *pretending* to be sleeping? When I weaned dd in the morning I had dh get her up and feed her and she wouldn't think of it. She was in her own room though so it was different. she only nursed twice a day as well so she was already on her own way to weaning.


I wish this could work but I have to get up earlier than DD & DH or else; I/we would never get out of the house in the morning. The last couple days, the screaming hasn't been an issue...go figure. Thanks for the idea....maybe I can try it down the road when she is in her own room.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice and personal experiences. It gives me some ideas on how to address the situation. Of course, the last two mornings it hasn't been an issue since I posted this.

DH and I have been talking about it quite a bit because when she does this; it makes him late for work and makes me later than I would like to be. We think she may still be tired when this happens. Last night, we put her to bed 1/2 hour earlier and she was an extremely happy camper this morning. I think this is a key factor.

The whole house has been fighting a cold too so I am sure this has been a factor. I know my ears and have been backed up and I am guessing hers have too. So, I am sure an additional sucking helps.

You have planted more thoughts about the bed/room transition. I guess the first step should to put a bed in her room and see if there is any interest. It will never happen if she doesn't have a place to sleep!
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