Comments on: Fair warning: new traffic to HC starting March 1! http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/ find out what's up in Hyena-land Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:03:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Julianna http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2316 Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:16:42 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2316 This has given me the kick in the butt that I needed to get my store updated graphics and more frequent stocking. Thanks for the heads up. This has given me the kick in the butt that I needed to get my store updated graphics and more frequent stocking. Thanks for the heads up.

]]> by: Jo http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2259 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:54:14 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2259 And yet, I feel as though I was rather inflamatory in my first post. I apologize if I was, I feel it was a bit sarcastic and it came out wrong. I was feeling irritated that Karen is trying to be upbeat and that is a good thing, but I guess many people do not realize that they actually DO have to take action IE XRF testing, compontent certs from companies they buy from, something. Because I know I have to do these things from other groups, I reacted badly. There was no call for me to be ugly just because I disagreed with some of you. I disagreed with the postings here so I escalated it and I dont think that was professional so I apologize. I do not know the reasons behind the arguement here because I wasnt there. And yet, I feel as though I was rather inflamatory in my first post. I apologize if I was, I feel it was a bit sarcastic and it came out wrong. I was feeling irritated that Karen is trying to be upbeat and that is a good thing, but I guess many people do not realize that they actually DO have to take action IE XRF testing, compontent certs from companies they buy from, something. Because I know I have to do these things from other groups, I reacted badly. There was no call for me to be ugly just because I disagreed with some of you. I disagreed with the postings here so I escalated it and I dont think that was professional so I apologize. I do not know the reasons behind the arguement here because I wasnt there.

]]> by: Jo http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2257 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:39:02 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2257 Oh, post script here is the link for hte stay. http://cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09115.html These paragraphs copied from that link- these are the paragraphs that prompt me to stay in business while taking care as this site tells us to do: "The stay of enforcement provides some temporary, limited relief to the crafters, children’s garment manufacturers and toy makers who had been subject to the testing and certification required under the CPSIA. These businesses will not need to issue certificates based on testing of their products until additional decisions are issued by the Commission. However, all businesses, including, but not limited to, handmade toy and apparel makers, crafters and home-based small businesses, must still be sure that their products conform to all safety standards and similar requirements, including the lead and phthalates provisions of the CPSIA. Handmade garment makers are cautioned to know whether the zippers, buttons and other fasteners they are using contain lead. Likewise, handmade toy manufacturers need to know whether their products, if using plastic or soft flexible vinyl, contain phthalates" Oh, post script here is the link for hte stay. http://cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09115.html

These paragraphs copied from that link- these are the paragraphs that prompt me to stay in business while taking care as this site tells us to do: “The stay of enforcement provides some temporary, limited relief to the crafters, children’s garment manufacturers and toy makers who had been subject to the testing and certification required under the CPSIA. These businesses will not need to issue certificates based on testing of their products until additional decisions are issued by the Commission. However, all businesses, including, but not limited to, handmade toy and apparel makers, crafters and home-based small businesses, must still be sure that their products conform to all safety standards and similar requirements, including the lead and phthalates provisions of the CPSIA.

Handmade garment makers are cautioned to know whether the zippers, buttons and other fasteners they are using contain lead. Likewise, handmade toy manufacturers need to know whether their products, if using plastic or soft flexible vinyl, contain phthalates”

]]> by: Jo http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2256 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:29:59 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2256 No seriously, if you USED to be a part of it, why are you still here? Obviously she isnt that bad! You are not banned from signing in and putting in your 1.25 worth (cant really be considered 2 cents now can it?) and that would be up to her right? Karen has never done me wrong, so far she has always helped me and been supportive. Furthermore, all of your carrying on about how she and everyone else will be sued by all the do-gooders, oh look, we have a stay! So wow she might not be sued. It could be that like Karen said, the law makers are adressing some of the possible issues in the law, that maybe all senators and congressman are looking again. That maybe the government isnt all bad, and they are listening. I mean is it possible that Karen being positive was a good idea as a leader? And even before the stay, the law stated that we had until aug 14 2009 to be compliant with unit testing. Between now and aug, and now until next feb, we are supposed to have "reasonable proof." For many mamas, that means getting certs on their components that they use from either companies that sell components (IE Fabrite) or taking samples for lab testing themselves. Karen isnt saying, "Hey all, be stupid." She has stated that these things are inherently lead free for the most part. And she is correct. I have been a part of a testing group that tested over 40 commonly used fabrics. Have been in contact with a popular snap store that I personally use who is testing/has tested. I know what I am using is lead free BECAUSE I did the work the law required/requires through feb 2009. Reasonable proof. So what will be sued for, if component testing and reasonable proof does follow the law for now? And has been the law for some time, the stay is new but the aug 14 date isnt. So I guess I shouldnt argue back with you, because you seem to hold a grudge and I DONT want to be on your grudge list. If you dont hold a grudge, why are you here, angry and arguing with Karen if you are not a part of HC anymore? If you do hold a grudge, I apologize if I have made you angry bc once again, its wicked boring and time consuming in most cases to be on someone's grudge list! Why am I argueing with you when that could put me on your list? Because once, a yr + ago, I was put on someones grudge list. Someone became angry with me, said some untrue things about me that escalated until a lawyer was involved. I didnt do anything to deserve it. I didnt know Karen well then, but Karen along with many coop mods and other larger WAHMs stood up for me, had my back though that risked them being on a grudge list. I was a LITTLE TINY WHAM. They could have left me out to dry and instead they stood up for what was right. If you dont belong to HC, by YOUR choice, why come back to pick a fight? I dont see it as right, so there is my answer. That is why I come on here, to my turf, to Karens turf, to a lot of other mamas homes for selling, and argue. No seriously, if you USED to be a part of it, why are you still here? Obviously she isnt that bad! You are not banned from signing in and putting in your 1.25 worth (cant really be considered 2 cents now can it?) and that would be up to her right? Karen has never done me wrong, so far she has always helped me and been supportive. Furthermore, all of your carrying on about how she and everyone else will be sued by all the do-gooders, oh look, we have a stay! So wow she might not be sued. It could be that like Karen said, the law makers are adressing some of the possible issues in the law, that maybe all senators and congressman are looking again. That maybe the government isnt all bad, and they are listening. I mean is it possible that Karen being positive was a good idea as a leader? And even before the stay, the law stated that we had until aug 14 2009 to be compliant with unit testing. Between now and aug, and now until next feb, we are supposed to have “reasonable proof.” For many mamas, that means getting certs on their components that they use from either companies that sell components (IE Fabrite) or taking samples for lab testing themselves. Karen isnt saying, “Hey all, be stupid.” She has stated that these things are inherently lead free for the most part. And she is correct. I have been a part of a testing group that tested over 40 commonly used fabrics. Have been in contact with a popular snap store that I personally use who is testing/has tested. I know what I am using is lead free BECAUSE I did the work the law required/requires through feb 2009. Reasonable proof. So what will be sued for, if component testing and reasonable proof does follow the law for now? And has been the law for some time, the stay is new but the aug 14 date isnt. So I guess I shouldnt argue back with you, because you seem to hold a grudge and I DONT want to be on your grudge list. If you dont hold a grudge, why are you here, angry and arguing with Karen if you are not a part of HC anymore? If you do hold a grudge, I apologize if I have made you angry bc once again, its wicked boring and time consuming in most cases to be on someone’s grudge list! Why am I argueing with you when that could put me on your list? Because once, a yr + ago, I was put on someones grudge list. Someone became angry with me, said some untrue things about me that escalated until a lawyer was involved. I didnt do anything to deserve it. I didnt know Karen well then, but Karen along with many coop mods and other larger WAHMs stood up for me, had my back though that risked them being on a grudge list. I was a LITTLE TINY WHAM. They could have left me out to dry and instead they stood up for what was right. If you dont belong to HC, by YOUR choice, why come back to pick a fight? I dont see it as right, so there is my answer. That is why I come on here, to my turf, to Karens turf, to a lot of other mamas homes for selling, and argue.

]]> by: karen http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2245 Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:58:05 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2245 Some of us used to be members here Valarie. Karen has gone over the line so far and so many times we couldn't stay. We don't shop here nor sell. Maybe the ad will help her. I hope so. She really should take better care of her sellers though. Some of us used to be members here Valarie. Karen has gone over the line so far and so many times we couldn’t stay. We don’t shop here nor sell. Maybe the ad will help her. I hope so. She really should take better care of her sellers though.

]]> by: Valarie http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2203 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:36:08 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2203 Thanks for the ad in Mothering!! To those naysayers, you can say anything you'd like. You may follow whatever way you choose. Everyone has the right to make their own choice. N one is critisizing you for yours. And if you aren't apart of HC, why even be here? Thanks for the ad in Mothering!!

To those naysayers, you can say anything you’d like. You may follow whatever way you choose. Everyone has the right to make their own choice. N one is critisizing you for yours. And if you aren’t apart of HC, why even be here?

]]> by: karen http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2198 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:43:18 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2198 Very very well said Kathleen! I hate for them to have this big ad in Mothering then the whole thing shut down because of Karen's disregard of the law. It's not like Karen can retract it, it's been copied all over the internet and easy to find in the future on the WayBack machine. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php . It's not really fair to her sellers to open her site to this sort of thing. I'm glad I switched a long time ago. Very very well said Kathleen!

I hate for them to have this big ad in Mothering then the whole thing shut down because of Karen’s disregard of the law. It’s not like Karen can retract it, it’s been copied all over the internet and easy to find in the future on the WayBack machine. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php . It’s not really fair to her sellers to open her site to this sort of thing. I’m glad I switched a long time ago.

]]> by: Carrie http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2197 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:07:49 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2197 Yippee! How exciting. Thank you for the advance notice too. Love the ad, beautiful. That is very nice of you. Now off to plan to stock my store, lol. Yippee! How exciting. Thank you for the advance notice too. Love the ad, beautiful. That is very nice of you. Now off to plan to stock my store, lol.

]]> by: margaret http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2195 Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:29:08 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2195 How wonderful!! Mothering will be such a fantastic match! *skips off to put a button on my blog* :) How wonderful!! Mothering will be such a fantastic match! *skips off to put a button on my blog* :)

]]> by: Rebecca VLQ http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2193 Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:30:34 +0000 http://hyenacart.com/Blog/2009/01/19/fair-warning-new-traffic-to-hc-starting-march-1/#comment-2193 Karen, Thanks for being so smart and informed. Thanks for not being alarmist. Thank you, thank you, thank you for putting on your thinking cap and thinking this through logically. And thank you for being a tremendous mountain of strength while chaos swirls around this issue. "Personal leadership is the ongoing process of keeping your vision and values before you and aligning your life to be congruent with those most important things." Stephen Covey Karen,

Thanks for being so smart and informed. Thanks for not being alarmist. Thank you, thank you, thank you for putting on your thinking cap and thinking this through logically. And thank you for being a tremendous mountain of strength while chaos swirls around this issue.

“Personal leadership is the ongoing process of keeping your vision and values before you and aligning your life to be congruent with those most important things.” Stephen Covey

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